It’s All About Terms! – Cooling Tower Pumps and Piping – Part 1

Norm HallHydronic System Design, Cooling Towers, Piping and Pumps, Cooling, Cooling Towers, Monday Morning Minutes, Pumps, Cooling Towers

Most cooling tower designs and installations are commissioned without any issues. The few percent of times where problems arise will cause multiple meetings, emails, finger pointing, and added costs. The issues are not caused by bad luck or bad Karma; tower water pumping issues are typically caused by air, dirt, or improper application. [Read more…]

FAQs on Expansion and Compression Tanks – Part 2 of Series

Norm HallMonday Morning Minutes, Tanks, Hydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks, Expansion/Compression Tanks

Here we answer the questions:
Can I use a bladder tank and a steel compression tank in the same system? Adding on to my system, need to increase my compression tank/expansion tank capacity? How do I put another tank in parallel with the existing? Or my existing tank is too small, how do I increase capacity? What happens if the bladder type tank air charge is not increased to the proper fill pressure?

FAQs on Expansion and Compression Tanks – Part 1 of Series

Norm HallHydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks, Expansion/Compression Tanks, Monday Morning Minutes, Tanks

Here we answer the questions:
How do I select a B&G bladder tank to replace my plain steel compression tank? What tank do I need for my XXX BTUH Boiler? Can I install the bladder / diaphragm tank on its side? How come the factory can’t charge my tank to something other than 12 PSIG? Why is my compression tank water logged? When I soap it, I can’t find a leak.

Compression Tank and Expansion Tank Selection Examples – Part 10

Norm HallMonday Morning Minutes, Tanks, Hydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks, Expansion/Compression Tanks

Today, let’s look at a couple of selections and how the tank sizes and costs may vary based on location and type of tank selected. Our examples are shown in figures A & B. In each case we will use a system volume of 1500 gallons of water with a supply temperature of 200°F and 20°F ΔT. The system is 60 feet high and in each case the maximum pressure is 50 PSIG.

Differences in Compression Tank and Expansion Tank Formula – Part 9

Norm HallHydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks, Expansion/Compression Tanks, Monday Morning Minutes, Tanks

Now we understand the difference between expansion and compression tanks as described in the R. L. Deppmann Monday Morning Minutes of 1-9-12 and 1-16-12. What happens to the formula results when comparing these two types of tanks? In part 1 of this series, we introduced the formula for tank sizing. The denominator of the equation was: (Pa /Pf) – (Pa /Po)

Expansion and Compression Tanks – Which Tank? – Part 8

Norm HallExpansion/Compression Tanks, Monday Morning Minutes, Tanks, Hydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks

Choosing to use a Bell and Gossett ASME bladder style expansion tank, ASME diaphragm style tank, or ASME standard compression tank in your hydronic system will depend on several factors. One important consideration in choosing which tank to use depends on the type of “air control” system you design. Air elimination systems depend on automatic air vents to continually remove the air from the hydronic system.

Types of Tanks – Expansion and Compression Tanks – Part 7

Norm HallMonday Morning Minutes, Tanks, Hydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks, Expansion/Compression Tanks

What is the difference and when should I use them? Let’s start with ASME. In commercial and institutional applications, ASHRAE, as well as most codes require the pressure vessels carry an ASME U stamp. This assures the owner and the owner’s insurance carrier that the vessel was inspected by an independent appraiser and registered with the National Board.

Max Pressure of Expansion and Compression Tanks – Part 6

Norm HallMonday Morning Minutes, Tanks, Hydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks, Expansion/Compression Tanks

[Continuation from last week’s MMM] Let’s assume we have a SIX story health care building and the heating system is 90 feet high with a 180 degree supply temperature. The pump and boilers are on the first floor. The BRYAN boilers selected come with 125 PSIG relief valves. Let’s also assume that the pump has a capacity of 800 GPM at 100 feet at design.

Maximum Pressure of Expansion and Compression Tanks – Part 5

Norm HallPressures, Expansion/Compression Tanks, Monday Morning Minutes, Tanks, Hydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks

Maximum pressure in a hydronic system depends on a number of variables. Last week we used an example to introduce the maximum pressure at the expansion tank. Let’s look at a couple more examples. EXAMPLE TWO: Figure 1 shows a one line diagram of a heating system with a boiler and pumping system.

Cold Fill Pressure – Expansion and Compression Tanks – Part 4

Norm HallMonday Morning Minutes, Tanks, Hydronic System Design, Expansion and Compression Tanks, Pressures, Expansion/Compression Tanks

Cold fill pressure is defined as the initial pressure required to lift water from the point of the gauge readout to the top of the system plus 4 PSIG for positive venting. This statement holds true for systems from chilled water to heating systems up to 220°F. From 220°F to 250°F, consult the Bell and Gossett Air Management training manual, available from R L Deppmann Company, serving Michigan and Ohio, or from your local B&G representative for other parts of the globe.